Electronic Parking Brake: Why?

[ElBocko]

So if I was sat in traffic the motors would still be using battery power?

If you use the handbrake you will still use power. If you use the footbrake no and yes. Press down firmly will cut the power, press down lightly just to hold creep will still have the motors switched on.

Oh bugger! My pet hate is people using their foot brake when stopped in traffic. I have always applied the handbrake when stationary - like I was taught almost 50 years ago, don't think I'll be able to change the habit of a lifetime (even if I am the only person in the world still doing it!) Is it too late to cancel my order? :lol:

@maby I do the same and use the handbrake for one very good reason, it means my right foot is on the accelerator (gas) pedal and I can get off quicker!

I use the "Joystick" to go into neutral and that disconnects the electric drive and then use the hand brake until drive is required. But if traffic is crawling (love the electric car) then it just moves gently along in drive.

 

[maby]

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I use the "Joystick" to go into neutral and that disconnects the electric drive and then use the hand brake until drive is required. But if traffic is crawling (love the electric car) then it just moves gently along in drive.

That is interesting! On what grounds do you go into neutral and use the handbrake rather than hitting "Park"?

It is something that I do sometimes in the Prius (which has a very similar system) on the basis that the "Park" button engages some sort or transmission lock and if someone hits me from behind, the force transmitted through the transmission could do it a lot of damage.

 

[jaapv]

When I stop to get out to open my gate I just hit "P".

 

[DavidWolfy]

Does 'P' disengage automatically when driving off or can 'P' only be selected if 'N' selected and going into 'R' or 'D' disengages 'P'?

Also, the manual seems to imply that 'P' engages the brakes (there is a warning about selecting 'P' when moving as it could cause the car to suddenly stop, etc.). Is this so and if so, why have the manual brake: is it a back-up?

My car hasn't arrived yet hence the questions.

Thanks.

 

[maby]

Does 'P' disengage automatically when driving off or can 'P' only be selected if 'N' selected and going into 'R' or 'D' disengages 'P'?

Also, the manual seems to imply that 'P' engages the brakes (there is a warning about selecting 'P' when moving as it could cause the car to suddenly stop, etc.). Is this so and if so, why have the manual brake: is it a back-up?

My car hasn't arrived yet hence the questions.

Thanks.

I'm not sure that that warning means that "P" engages the brakes. Almost all automatics have a "Park" position on the gearshift which implements a lock somewhere in the transmission which is completely separate from the brake disks or drums. It's more akin to leaving a manual transmission car in gear with the engine stopped when you get out. Obviously this is not something that you would want to engage while the car is in motion! The Prius includes protection against it - if you hit "P" while you are moving, it is ignored (actually, I think the car drops into neutral). I don't know how it works on the Outlander - my guess is that it engages a pawl in the clutch that also engages the engine when the car goes into parallel hybrid mode.

 

[BeerHunter]

...Also, the manual seems to imply that 'P' engages the brakes (there is a warning about selecting 'P' when moving as it could cause the car to suddenly stop, etc.)...

You have a different manual from me. Mine says:

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"If you perform the following operation, the buzzer may sound and the select position may automatically shift to “N” position.
• Press the electrical parking switch during running
• Shift the selector lever to “R” while driving forward
• Shift the selector lever to “D” while driving backward
• Shift the selector lever to “B” in “R” position"
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Kev.

 

[maddogsetc]

Does 'P' disengage automatically when driving off or can 'P' only be selected if 'N' selected and going into 'R' or 'D' disengages 'P'?

No, you cannot engage D or R without simultaneously disengaging P. But P can be selected regardless of what setting you are in as long as the car is stationary.

 

[maby]

Does 'P' disengage automatically when driving off or can 'P' only be selected if 'N' selected and going into 'R' or 'D' disengages 'P'?

No, you cannot engage D or R without simultaneously disengaging P. But P can be selected regardless of what setting you are in as long as the car is stationary.

perhaps more clearly, engaging 'D' or 'R' disengages 'P' - there is no separate action required.

 

[maddogsetc]

Thanks, yep that's how it works.

 

[ElBocko]

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I use the "Joystick" to go into neutral and that disconnects the electric drive and then use the hand brake until drive is required. But if traffic is crawling (love the electric car) then it just moves gently along in drive.

That is interesting! On what grounds do you go into neutral and use the handbrake rather than hitting "Park"?

It is something that I do sometimes in the Prius (which has a very similar system) on the basis that the "Park" button engages some sort or transmission lock and if someone hits me from behind, the force transmitted through the transmission could do it a lot of damage.

I use Neutral to disconnect the drive, I just prefer the manual hand brake and to disconnect the drive batteries when waiting at traffic lights etc.

 

[user 422]

So if I was sat in traffic the motors would still be using battery power?

If you use the handbrake you will still use power. If you use the footbrake no and yes. Press down firmly will cut the power, press down lightly just to hold creep will still have the motors switched on.

Oh bugger! My pet hate is people using their foot brake when stopped in traffic. I have always applied the handbrake when stationary - like I was taught almost 50 years ago, don't think I'll be able to change the habit of a lifetime (even if I am the only person in the world still doing it!) Is it too late to cancel my order? :lol:

When stationary in a queue thats not moving for a while just select "N" and apply hand brake - like any other Automatic...