Question About the Portable Charger for Outlander PHEV in Australia

[nanaa0]

Hello All,

I just purchased a Outlander PHEV. Came home and had a look at the portable charger that came with the car.

It’s branded JETCHARGE MIDA Protable EV Charger and lacks app connectivity. Surprisingly, it doesn’t even have a serial number, which I thought would be required to meet Japanese quality standards!. The charger has three power settings: 1.38 kW, 1.84 kW, and 2.3 kW.

I’m curious to know if this is the "genuine" standard portable charger provided with the Outlander PHEV in Australia for other owners as well.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[AndyInOz]

You should tell members what year your PHEV was made.

(Sticker on the inside of the passenger side door pillar, i.e. open the door and look for stickers in the area that's usually covered by the door, when it is closed.)

It doesn't match the charger that was supplied with my 2014 PHEV.

The information on the back of that charger, shows the manufacturer's name to be : YAZAKI.

Jetcharge appear to sell many after-market charging solutions for electric vehicles:

https://jetcharge.com.au/personal/ev-home-charger/

 

[nanaa0]

You should tell members what year your PHEV was made.

(Sticker on the inside of the passenger side door pillar, i.e. open the door and look for stickers in the area that's usually covered by the door, when it is closed.)

It doesn't match the charger that was supplied with my 2014 PHEV.

The information on the back of that charger, shows the manufacturer's name to be : YAZAKI.

Jetcharge appear to sell many after-market charging solutions for electric vehicles:

https://jetcharge.com.au/personal/ev-home-charger/

Thank you for your reply.

My Outlander is a brand new 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV ES ZM MY24 AWD.

I was essentially expecting a Mitsubishi branded genuine portable charger with a brand new car !!.

 

[AndyInOz]

Well, our cars are 10 years apart, so I wouldn't expect things to be identical.

Please note that my charger does not have Mitsubushi branding on it anywhere.

Can anyone else with a 2024 comment about their charger please?

 

[PHEV07]

Well, our cars are 10 years apart, so I wouldn't expect things to be identical.

Please note that my charger does not have Mitsubushi branding on it anywhere.

Can anyone else with a 2024 comment about their charger please?

I can post some photos of mine tomorrow but it will be from Canada/North America.

As we use 120VAC 60HZ Power System it may be different from ones sold to the Australian Market

 

[Ben Baker]

Canadian 2023 charger has a big Mitsubishi logo on it and is manufactured by Panasonic.

 

[PHEV07]

I can post some photos of mine tomorrow but it will be from Canada/North America.

As we use 120VAC 60HZ Power System it may be different from ones sold to the Australian Market

 

[Rudra]

Thank you for your reply.

My Outlander is a brand new 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV ES ZM MY24 AWD.

I was essentially expecting a Mitsubishi branded genuine portable charger with a brand new car !!.

My Australian MY 23 ES.. also came with Jet Charger 6A, 8A or 10A .. no complaints work fine.

I would be more concerned about the lack of a jack !

 

[BruceHF]

Here is a theoretical situation;
I am camping in the bush without electricity. I live in Canada, and of course it is summer. I have a gas/p[etrol generator. I have the normal Mitsubishi charger ( see seen above) .Would I be able to charge my PHEV????
If so what size / output should the generator be?

 

[cirdan]

I also have a 2024 Outlander and it came with the JETCHARGE MIDA Protable EV Charger but I found it has ceased working on two occasions now when we've been travelling and I've plugged it into caravan park outlets. When we get home it still does not work. Only get a red light, slowly flashing. I took it to Mitsubishi and they said it was something to do with a setting in the vehicle but I still don't understand what it is as the tech. wasn't available to explain what the problem was or how to rectify it. I'm taking the vehicle for it's first service next week so I intend to find out. Worked fine at home for the first few months. At home now, I'm currently using a MIDA Adjustable Portable EV Charger https://ultipower.com.au/collection...rtable-ev-charger-8a-10a-15a-type-2-au-plug-1
A much better EVSE and much faster however I would like the JETCHARGE that came with the vehicle to be working for when we're away.

 

[PHEV07]

Here is a theoretical situation;
I am camping in the bush without electricity. I live in Canada, and of course it is summer. I have a gas/p[etrol generator. I have the normal Mitsubishi charger ( see seen above) .Would I be able to charge my PHEV????
If so what size / output should the generator be?

A 4 kW Output Generator is all you would need.

Outlander PHEVs can only be charged at 3.7kW maximum

 

[Ben Baker]

Here is a theoretical situation;
I am camping in the bush without electricity. I live in Canada, and of course it is summer. I have a gas/p[etrol generator. I have the normal Mitsubishi charger ( see seen above) .Would I be able to charge my PHEV????
If so what size / output should the generator be?

Wouldn't it be more efficient to pour the gas in the car?

 

[BruceHF]

A 4 kW Output Generator is all you would need.

Outlander PHEVs can only be charged at 3.7kW maximum

Looks like I am a bit short?
Here is a pictures of my generator;
(Don't know why there are 2 shots)

 

[littlescrote]

You would, but it would be quite wasteful. Just use the fuel in the vehicle directly.

 

[Ben Baker]

Looks like I am a bit short?
Here is a pictures of my generator;
(Don't know why there are 2 shots)
View attachment 1671

That 3.7kw is based on using a 240v controller, the "granny charger" takes only 14.4kw.

 

[Jedinsky]

Here is a theoretical situation;
I am camping in the bush without electricity. I live in Canada, and of course it is summer. I have a gas/p[etrol generator. I have the normal Mitsubishi charger ( see seen above) .Would I be able to charge my PHEV????
If so what size / output should the generator be?

thats a real "how long is a piece of string" question.

if you can get a generator that can output 500VDC you could fast charge, theoretically

with 240v 15A you could get 3.7kw peak into the car, but you've only got one plug, the main limit isn't the "KW" of the generator, its how many KW the generator can supply from one outlet, so you may be limited to 10A which means 2.4kw max. with 110v you'd struggle to get 1kw.

if, as i suspect, you're thinking along these lines because you're not using regular petrol to power the generator, a generator might not be your only option.

if you're using woodgas then absolutely use a portable generator, but if you're using LNG or LPG one option might be to get a conversion done (converted vehicles can run both gas and petrol), gas limits the amount of air can be pulled on the intake stroke because the methane/LNG occupies more volume in the cylinder than liquid petrol would, which limits power output but may improve efficiency (and reduced power isn't an issue when you're attempting 10kw charging using a 100kw engine). LPG/LNG is also less harsh on engines, causing less wear. i've done a little research into getting this done, but integrating it into the vehicle systems would be a huge pain in the ass, so its on my "things to attempt in 2034 when the 10 year warranty runs out" list.

"LNG/LPG" conversion would be a great optional extra to add to the list of things mitsubishi could offer buyers if mitsubishi decide they like money (other things being a bigger battery, a bigger inverter, etc)

 

[BruceHF]

My question remains: Can I use my generator or not to charge the PHEV even at 120W?

 

[PHEV07]

My question remains: Can I use my generator or not to charge the PHEV even at 120W?

Short answer is yes.

What is the output voltage from the Generator? 120VAC, or 240VAC

This Thread was started by someone in Australia.

Where did you say you lived?

Sorry, but I did not look up your Profile.

Edit:

Just checked, Niagara Falls Canada. Hello fellow Canadian.

 

[Ben Baker]

You'd probably want the generator to have an inverter output.

 

[Jedinsky]

My question remains: Can I use my generator or not to charge the PHEV even at 120W?

yes. if it can run a TV, it can charge a PHEV.