Overall Efficiency

[Ben Baker]

Hopefully Mike Mas will join in on this one. Have you been able to figure out what's the most efficient mode overall? Normal, Eco or Volting (using Charge and EV sessions). Or has this already been flogged to death?

 

[PHEV07]

Hopefully Mike Mas will join in on this one. Have you been able to figure out what's the most efficient mode overall? Normal, Eco or Volting (using Charge and EV sessions). Or has this already been flogged to death?

Hi Ben

Are you asking a general question or is the question pertaining to a specific Year and Model. Also, please indicate where you live.

I am now driving a 2024 Oulander PHEV GT and have been averaging 95/100 km/h on full charge when driving just in the city and surrounded by School Zones in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada.

Procedure that works best for me.

1) Brake pedal down and Start
2) Press EV Button
3) Select ECO Mode
4) Place in Drive
5) Pedal to Regen B-0
6) HVAC OFF

 

[Ben Baker]

It's a general question on overall observations that experienced people would have done driving the car. I'm in Ontario and spend winter in Florida, this is a GREAT car for snowbirds. I've been able to do some identical trips with different modes trying to figure this out but sometimes it doesn't make sense (such as when eco is not eco). Your starting regimen points out the need for assigning configurations to keys (if it can assign seat position, why shouln't it assign mode). I'll bet you won't be using the HVAC off this winter (in Winnipeg)! What about getting fresh air in the car and defogging windows?

 

[PHEV07]

It's a general question on overall observations that experienced people would have done driving the car. I'm in Ontario and spend winter in Florida, this is a GREAT car for snowbirds. I've been able to do some identical trips with different modes trying to figure this out but sometimes it doesn't make sense (such as when eco is not eco). Your starting regimen points out the need for assigning configurations to keys (if it can assign seat position, why shouln't it assign mode). I'll bet you won't be using the HVAC off this winter (in Winnipeg)! What about getting fresh air in the car and defogging windows?

Oh yes, soon enough, the Heat Pump will be humming. I expect my range to by drop 25 to 30%.

I dread the thought of what may happen when Temps drop below -25'C.

Since I have no garage and park outside, I wonder how many times my car may not start.

Have to wait and see.

 

[AndyInOz]

One thing you could try, is to put a cover over your vehicle when cold weather is expected.

That could also have the advantage of making it easier in the morning, because you'd be able to remove the cover with all the ice and snow on it, leaving clean windows below.

(I've seen youtubes where people but a cover on the windscreen and plastic bags over their mirrors for this reason.)

 

[Woon Chung]

Hopefully Mike Mas will join in on this one. Have you been able to figure out what's the most efficient mode overall? Normal, Eco or Volting (using Charge and EV sessions). Or has this already been flogged to death?

When we got a new ICE car, searching efficient mode has been flogged to death. Most of the people know the answer is "Slow start and steady speed". As the modern tech makes it possible to use electrons in real life, the "How to use it" becomes an significant issue, since we do not know the details of technical background in general. All is new to us and it changes very fast.

PHEV is not the exception of these new trend of fast changing tech. Hybrid engine and battery tech itself is not same compare to 10 years ago. Current Hybrid fuel efficiency is double than 10 years ago, and 2 miles for 1kwh(Mits) battery became 5 miles per 1kwh now (Tesla).

So, individual experience could be a poison to the others since we do not know the base of such individual experience came from. This is the reason why we can see so many different opinions against one simple question.

Based on the basic tech of PHEV in general, there are 2 different approaching ways. One is conventional and the other is modern tech. Conventional aspect is based on the Physics Law of Moving Object. In this way, we can talk about fuel efficiency under the Slow Start and steady speed. Eco mode is the nice sounding express of slow start and steady speed. Modern tech aspect is based on techs applied to the car by engineers capability. This applied to Hybrid Engine in general and Save/Charged mode button. This selection is for effective use of the car, including fuel efficiency. Once we mix 2 different function in one bowl, there is no answer exist.

I want you not to be confused with other individual experiences regarding "Efficiency". Modern equipment is made by modern technology, and modern technology went too far away from us to understand. Nevertheless, if you want to know your car for proper use and maintenance, get familiar with Hybrid history and battery tech. Simple question can not get you the right answer for deep and wide range of modern tech applied product.

I am very much sorry for useless comments, but I found so much articles with no understanding of PHEV. You can get any other useful comments from this forum about good solutions or how to solve issues, but not proper comments about efficiency.

These are the subjects on PHEV
What is Hybrid and how we save fuel by Hybrid
What is the Series in Hybrid
What is the difference between Hybrid and Plug-In Hybrid
What is Series and Parallel in PHEV
What is the meaning of EV distance in data sheet and number shown in display.
How to charge battery, what controls the battery

Good luck to you

 

[Ben Baker]

Hey Woon. The reason I hoped Mike would pipe in is because he has the same vehicle I do (2023). I pretty much ignore anything prior to the 2023 (which I think was 2022 in Europe) model because it seemed that Mitsubishi made a fair number of changes to the software and how the thing is working at that time. Seems to be no difference with the 2024.

 

[Woon Chung]

Hey Woon. The reason I hoped Mike would pipe in is because he has the same vehicle I do (2023). I pretty much ignore anything prior to the 2023 (which I think was 2022 in Europe) model because it seemed that Mitsubishi made a fair number of changes to the software and how the thing is working at that time. Seems to be no difference with the 2024.

No problem. I have 2022 in USA.