How long can these cars last?

[LanderCT7]

Anyone have more than 100,000 miles on their PHEV?

 

[RicS]

About 6 weeks from 94k, then its game over. Dump these at 80k / 7 years. Worthless beyond that point, or best case they are russian roulette. Avoid.

https://www.myoutlanderphev.com/threads/endtroduction-vent-post.7005/post-68190

 

[littlescrote]

Anyone have more than 100,000 miles on their PHEV?

Yes, 2016 with about 110k miles. Still does >20 miles on battery in winter.

 

[napton]

Yes, 104,000 on a 2015 model, with no issues

 

[Terry Yates]

Yes, 104,000 on a 2015 model, with no issues

2016 PHEV 116.000klms, best car ever owned, and still does 32 klms on battery

 

[HeliNurse]

About 6 weeks from 94k, then its game over. Dump these at 80k / 7 years. Worthless beyond that point, or best case they are russian roulette. Avoid.

https://www.myoutlanderphev.com/threads/endtroduction-vent-post.7005/post-68190

So just like any modern SUV then?

 

[crun]

Anyone have more than 100,000 miles on their PHEV?

189000 km.
Zero mechanical problems in that time, except the spring that closes the charging flap won't stay put. That makes it hands down the most reliable vehicle I have owned.
Still doing 20km, including hills. Battery is getting pretty buggered, and this shows as greater petrol consumption on petrol around town, and the engine coming on far more frequently.
I have found a new Mitsi replacement battery at what I consider a reasonable price installed, and with hindsight, would have replaced it at about the 140k-150k mark. That would have taken the vehicle through to >300k, by which time the body and suspension should be buggered.
At this point I am debating replacing the battery in this one, or looking for a cheap, clean, 100k - 140k one and giving it a new battery.

 

[lbakalov]

Mine is 2014 model. At 220000 km. Battery is at 2500 cycles and still hold 20km, but I do not use it often because of long trips. Just after 2 months one small home charge for cell balancing. Nothing as problems. Just regular fluids change!
Under body have a sign of rust but nothing serious!. Engine still in perfect condition and with 0W-30 do the whole cycle (7-8k km) w/o adding oil. Also the other fluid systems too. I sew offers over 350k km.

 

[TSayles]

I bought a 2018 GT new than now has 133k miles. I've driven it hard and abused the battery by fully discharging and recharging twice a day when I commute (once at work, and again when I get home). Plus fast DC charging when I take it on road trips several times a year. I've also been using the watchdog app religiously to monitor battery capacity. See below.

I also added a 700 lbs custom steel skid plate under the engine because I tore off the fiber (paper board?) shield off roading up a US Forest Service road. Even before that, it has been little under powered, especially climbing long grades when the battery runs out.

It's been dealer serviced regularly since it was new. Never had any significant mechanical issues. Only reason I've had to have it towed was due to a flat tire.

Originally I could get as much as 50 mpg if all I was doing was my daily commute (36 miles each way) Recently I've only been getting between 25 and 30 mpg due both to the battery age and a recent trip from Seattle to Los Angeles and back.

Support for the CHADeMO plug is being phased out by the major charging networks in North America. On the trip to California and back, several charging stations I have used in the past no longer have the CHADeMO plugs. More and more often I'm finding that the only CHADeMO station, where they do exist, is blocked by someone with a CCS vehicle.

I've debated replacing the battery, but I don't think it makes sense given the rapidly dropping resale value. I'm only intending to drive it another two or three years. If I can find someone who will do a CCS or NACS conversation along with a new battery for a decent price I might go that route and keep it going for another 150k miles or so instead of replacing it.

In short it's been a nice and reliable vehicle that I have had lots of fun with. But I wouldn't buy one today due to the lack of (and decreasing) fast DC charging infrastructure in the US.

 

[BruceHF]

Well seeing many, many more favorable reports I feel good about my 2020 PHEV . I hope it is like all the older ones reported here. MIne now has over 76,000 Km with poor EV range in winter at around 21 KM, either way no other problems.

One think I would like to ask: Has anyone run the PHEV solely as a Hybrid? by that I mean if one lives n an apartment with underground parking how does one charge the car without going to FloCharge or one of those? Any comments??

 

[Moley 17]

Well seeing many, many more favorable reports I feel good about my 2020 PHEV . I hope it is like all the older ones reported here. MIne now has over 76,000 Km with poor EV range in winter at around 21 KM, either way no other problems.

One think I would like to ask: Has anyone run the PHEV solely as a Hybrid? by that I mean if one lives n an apartment with underground parking how does one charge the car without going to FloCharge or one of those? Any comments??

We used a 2020 for about 7 months without charging it, no issues but we live in Cornwall (UK) with an empty battery the outlander revs like moped going up some hills, I started using charge mode to keep 5miles of range to keep the reving in check, we've been off grid for electricity for the last 5 years, making charging difficult, now we have a mains connection the outlander gets charged every day sometimes twice making it much nicer to drive.

 

[yardbird]

2018 PHEV GT at 95k miles with about 10-12 EV miles when fully charged overnight. Oil change every 75k miles & replace air & cabin filters every 15k miles per US manual. Front passenger side CV boot & axle replaced by Dealer warranty. Front suspension replaced by extended warranty services. Rear drive mount gasket replaced by dealer warranty. Front dust covers for suspension replaced by my own expense (wear & tear). 4 wheel brake pads replacement. Replace 4 spark plugs myself around 60K miles. Other than that, it is still driving like new.

 

[LanderCT7]

189000 km.
Zero mechanical problems in that time, except the spring that closes the charging flap won't stay put. That makes it hands down the most reliable vehicle I have owned.
Still doing 20km, including hills. Battery is getting pretty buggered, and this shows as greater petrol consumption on petrol around town, and the engine coming on far more frequently.
I have found a new Mitsi replacement battery at what I consider a reasonable price installed, and with hindsight, would have replaced it at about the 140k-150k mark. That would have taken the vehicle through to >300k, by which time the body and suspension should be buggered.
At this point I am debating replacing the battery in this one, or looking for a cheap, clean, 100k - 140k one and giving it a new battery.

Wait, what? Which battery? The main battery or the auxiliary battery? You can replace the main battery in these without draining the bank?

 

[LanderCT7]

Mine is 2014 model. At 220000 km. Battery is at 2500 cycles and still hold 20km, but I do not use it often because of long trips. Just after 2 months one small home charge for cell balancing. Nothing as problems. Just regular fluids change!
Under body have a sign of rust but nothing serious!. Engine still in perfect condition and with 0W-30 do the whole cycle (7-8k km) w/o adding oil. Also the other fluid systems too. I sew offers over 350k km.

That's impressive. I definitely have a good one, but I can only imagine getting that much out of it considering the situation with dealerships in the US right now. Hopefully I can find the best independent mechanics around.

 

[LanderCT7]

We used a 2020 for about 7 months without charging it, no issues but we live in Cornwall (UK) with an empty battery the outlander revs like moped going up some hills, I started using charge mode to keep 5miles of range to keep the reving in check, we've been off grid for electricity for the last 5 years, making charging difficult, now we have a mains connection the outlander gets charged every day sometimes twice making it much nicer to drive.

Wow, you answered something that's been on my mind for a long time. I also live in the hills (US) and noticed the revving like a moped when the battery is drained, but like REALLY drained. I think it's designed to hold 25% at all times.. yes, that's right. Whenever I plug in from empty at public fast chargers, the state of battery is usually between 25-30%. When charged, it really does drive much nicer. However, SAVE mode (2019) tends to utilize some battery power and is fairly nice for freeway driving; Not as nice as NORMAL mode but gives superior fuel economy.

 

[BruceHF]

We used a 2020 for about 7 months without charging it, no issues but we live in Cornwall (UK) with an empty battery the outlander revs like moped going up some hills, I started using charge mode to keep 5miles of range to keep the reving in check, we've been off grid for electricity for the last 5 years, making charging difficult, now we have a mains connection the outlander gets charged every day sometimes twice making it much nicer to drive.

That is great to hear that you ran your car for 7 months without charging. It is just that we are planning on downsizing from where I have a garage with a level 2 charger and looking around for flats/apartments with underground parking there are little to no outlets to plug in.. Yes I can go to ChargeHub, or FloCharge if they are available and 'working'
I don't really want to change cars at this stage but if I have to I would look at the simple hybrid , but for now IF we move I would use my PHEV as a Hybrid . Thanks for your input