Burning rubber smell from back of car, while just driving on ECO.

[Haenzel]

There is neither a limiter or converter. If someone chats ****, I'll call it out. I don't care for your niceties, we're all adults.

Hmm, "we're all adults"? I would rephrase.....

On topic: What is this part then?? Or is Mitsubishi Parts Warehouse wrong as well?

 

[AndyInOz]

Haenzel, did you mean to point to something that is part of an Outlander PHEV?

There's nothing on that page that indicates that.

Maybe include a diagram that shows where it is installed on a PHEV?

 

[Haenzel]

Haenzel, did you mean to point to something that is part of an Outlander PHEV?

There's nothing on that page that indicates that.

Maybe include a diagram that shows where it is installed on a PHEV?

There is, in blue, near the top of the page, just above the image that doesn't show.

See also the following info on the Richi Jennings website, where the smal wet clutch is the torque converter and the emergency clutch the torque limiter:

K.1. The front transaxle​

The PHEV has a single-speed transaxle mated to the engine. Made by GKN, which calls it a “Multimode eTransmission,” it coordinates the engine and the two front motor-generators using a small wet clutch. There’s another, emergency clutch known as the torque limiter that joins the engine and the transaxle. (There’s a third motor-generator on the rear axle to provide AWD, but no kinetic coupling or power transfer front-to-back.)

 

[Phev2016]

There is, in blue, near the top of the page, just above the image that doesn't show.

See also the following info on the Richi Jennings website, where the smal wet clutch is the torque converter and the emergency clutch the torque limiter:

K.1. The front transaxle​

The PHEV has a single-speed transaxle mated to the engine. Made by GKN, which calls it a “Multimode eTransmission,” it coordinates the engine and the two front motor-generators using a small wet clutch. There’s another, emergency clutch known as the torque limiter that joins the engine and the transaxle. (There’s a third motor-generator on the rear axle to provide AWD, but no kinetic coupling or power transfer front-to-back.)

The small wet clutch is not a torque converter and Richi has not said that it is. It is a wet clutch, similar to those on motorbikes and acts like a typical manual car's dry clutch in easing the engine revs to match the transmission revs. There is a flywheel attached to the engine and the torque limiter outer casing is attached to that. It is not actually a clutch as far as I can tell and I think this is what's happening.
The outer casing of the limiter is connected to the central splined connector of the limiter via 4 concentric, strong springs set out in the same format as a dry clutch. The spline at the centre connects to a shaft from the eTransmission which is connected to the wet clutch. The torque limiter springs will smooth out the initial impact (torque) of the engine as plates of the wet clutch engage with the drive gear in the eTransmission.
I think it's quite clever. Manual cars have those springs as part of the clutch plate but Mitsubishi have moved the clutch friction mechanism into the gearbox but left the springs in the limiter.

 

[Phev2016]

The small wet clutch is not a torque converter and Richi has not said that it is. It is a wet clutch, similar to those on motorbikes and acts like a typical manual car's dry clutch in easing the engine revs to match the transmission revs. There is a flywheel attached to the engine and the torque limiter outer casing is attached to that. It is not actually a clutch as far as I can tell and I think this is what's happening.
The outer casing of the limiter is connected to the central splined connector of the limiter via 4 concentric, strong springs set out in the same format as a dry clutch. The spline at the centre connects to a shaft from the eTransmission which is connected to the wet clutch. The torque limiter springs will smooth out the initial impact (torque) of the engine as plates of the wet clutch engage with the drive gear in the eTransmission.
I think it's quite clever. Manual cars have those springs as part of the clutch plate but Mitsubishi have moved the clutch friction mechanism into the gearbox but left the springs in the limiter.

Update and correction to my previous message as I was wrong about the torque limiter. It is basically a standard dry clutch for emergency use and does not have an actuator. Richi has kindly explained it to me in more detail as summarised below:
In general, nondestructive torque limiters are normally-closed clutches (there are other types, obviously). The patents formerly assigned to GKN describe them as clutches (as do ZF's and Lucas's).
The idea is to break or limit torque transmission in the event of a failure or unexpected event, so as to mitigate damage to ICE, transaxle, generator and/or front motor. There's no actuation mechanism: It relies on interference (stiction) to transmit torque. Excessive torque should temporarily break the stiction, thus limiting the peak torque.
Yes, there are springs, as with any conventional dry clutch, which are used to damp flutter/resonance/"clutch judder." They're not moved from the wet clutch as such, because wet clutches don't need them (anyway, the wet clutch is used to engage parallel mode). The business end is a dry, single plate 220/170 clutch.

 

[littlescrote]

Haenzel, it might help you to know the 'scrote' is a slang term in the UK with a dictionary definition of 'a worthless person' but in normal use is usually used as an insult to describe a man you consider to be inferior and obnoxious (or worse). It comes from the word 'scrotum' - the hairy skin surrounding testicles. We would add 'little' to emphasise an insult. In choosing to be called Littlescrote it is perhaps unsurprising that his responses are not going to be pleasant, patient or very considerate but I guess he gets a kick from insulting people. It's a pity because his purely technical comments, unlike his opinions and insults, are often helpful.
Have a nice day!

That's quite a leap and rather judgemental from something that originated as a misspelling of Escort from my Ford forum days, but if that's the way you want to be.

As I said, there is no intention to offend, insult or anything else. It's not a schoolyard, I'm just calling out blatant BS from people who come out with it with no factual basis behind what they've spouted. If you or anyone else can't handle that, maybe fact check yourselves before typing rubbish.

Do you think it's helpful to just leave the misinformation there uncorrected just in case someone is offended by being told they're wrong?

 

[michael8554]

Are you sure thus isn't normal catalytic converter smell after running the ICE ?