PeteInOz
Active member
G'day All,
I am not sure if similar documents reside elsewhere on this forum but I have come into possession of a number of what I believe to be very important electronic documents pertaining to the Outlander PHEV, which I believe may prove beneficial to other members of this forum also.
As an example, I had suggested in one post that perhaps us Aussies could collectively gang up on Mitisi Australia and asked to have the fast charge adaptor retro fitted into our PHEVs. However, upon reading the all important and must read "Emergency Procedures Manual", I have now found reference to the fact that there are two different battery pack types (i.e. Type A for Australia and a Type B pack for other jurisdictions that have the fast charge option). Therefore, it would appear that a Type B pack is specifically required and designed for a fast charge and so I can only imagine that any such desired retro fit would (presumably) require a Type B battery pack change over. OUCH!! I must say I am not a happy camper upon reading/learning this.
Also, you will find that the Technical Highlights Manual has a number of interesting points. One such point was that the inverters cause a 15% loss on DC to AC conversion. I find this statistic rather unusual if not unsatisfactory given that a good household solar inverter, that does pretty well the same thing will be at least 93-98% efficient (???). Another point that I am sure will answer a few questions is that vehicle efficiency and therefore fuel economy can be significantly affected when EV mode remains activated if and when you exceed 120Km/Hr - due to magnetic induction of the electric motors causing drag. Given my background, I specifically had similar concerns about this very issue with respect to regenerative braking remaining active and causing perhaps similar drag issues above certain speed thresholds, thereby potentially affecting fuel economies on long haul trips. Unfortunately, my specific query regarding any drag due to regen is still not answered within the pages of any of these documents but I suspect given this info about the 120Km/hr threshold that there could very well be some drag if regen is active - though any inherent drag might be negligible at lower speeds.
Anyway, I hope all this info helps and that you all get many happy hours of informative reading
Cheers from
PeteInOz
Technical Highlights Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20Technical%20Highlights%20for%20MMAL.pdf
Emergency Procedures Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20EmergencyProcedureManualaus.pdf
Battery Pack MSDS - Aug 2013 (Please Note: This MSDS may only be specific to a Type A Battery Pack and not that of a Type B fast charge pack) - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20MSDS%20Battery%20Pack_130813.pdf
Maintenance of Vehicle in Storage Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20maintenance%20of%20vehicles%20in%20storage.pdf
PHEV Remote Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20Remote.pdf
MMCS Operation Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20MMCS%20Operation.pdf
PHEV Owners Manual (Australia) - Electronic - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/2014my%209290F852%20PHEV%20Outlander%20Owners%20manual.pdf
PHEV MMCS Manual (Australia) - Electronic - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/9290F228_MMCS_%20Manual.pdf
PHEV Q & A (Australia) - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Q%20and%20A.docx
I am not sure if similar documents reside elsewhere on this forum but I have come into possession of a number of what I believe to be very important electronic documents pertaining to the Outlander PHEV, which I believe may prove beneficial to other members of this forum also.
As an example, I had suggested in one post that perhaps us Aussies could collectively gang up on Mitisi Australia and asked to have the fast charge adaptor retro fitted into our PHEVs. However, upon reading the all important and must read "Emergency Procedures Manual", I have now found reference to the fact that there are two different battery pack types (i.e. Type A for Australia and a Type B pack for other jurisdictions that have the fast charge option). Therefore, it would appear that a Type B pack is specifically required and designed for a fast charge and so I can only imagine that any such desired retro fit would (presumably) require a Type B battery pack change over. OUCH!! I must say I am not a happy camper upon reading/learning this.
Also, you will find that the Technical Highlights Manual has a number of interesting points. One such point was that the inverters cause a 15% loss on DC to AC conversion. I find this statistic rather unusual if not unsatisfactory given that a good household solar inverter, that does pretty well the same thing will be at least 93-98% efficient (???). Another point that I am sure will answer a few questions is that vehicle efficiency and therefore fuel economy can be significantly affected when EV mode remains activated if and when you exceed 120Km/Hr - due to magnetic induction of the electric motors causing drag. Given my background, I specifically had similar concerns about this very issue with respect to regenerative braking remaining active and causing perhaps similar drag issues above certain speed thresholds, thereby potentially affecting fuel economies on long haul trips. Unfortunately, my specific query regarding any drag due to regen is still not answered within the pages of any of these documents but I suspect given this info about the 120Km/hr threshold that there could very well be some drag if regen is active - though any inherent drag might be negligible at lower speeds.
Anyway, I hope all this info helps and that you all get many happy hours of informative reading
Cheers from
PeteInOz
Technical Highlights Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20Technical%20Highlights%20for%20MMAL.pdf
Emergency Procedures Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20EmergencyProcedureManualaus.pdf
Battery Pack MSDS - Aug 2013 (Please Note: This MSDS may only be specific to a Type A Battery Pack and not that of a Type B fast charge pack) - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20MSDS%20Battery%20Pack_130813.pdf
Maintenance of Vehicle in Storage Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20maintenance%20of%20vehicles%20in%20storage.pdf
PHEV Remote Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20Remote.pdf
MMCS Operation Manual - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Outlander%20MMCS%20Operation.pdf
PHEV Owners Manual (Australia) - Electronic - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/2014my%209290F852%20PHEV%20Outlander%20Owners%20manual.pdf
PHEV MMCS Manual (Australia) - Electronic - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/9290F228_MMCS_%20Manual.pdf
PHEV Q & A (Australia) - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106981165/PHEV/PHEV%20Q%20and%20A.docx