sokratesagogo said:Nice parking Jaapv!
probably as close as most SUVs get to going off road!
sokratesagogo said:Nice parking Jaapv!
Regulo said:Where do you live, gd? I fancy suing someone when I trip over a cable trailing across a public footpath. :twisted:greendwarf said:My neighbour does this to charge his ordinary car battery every few months (hardly uses car) - and he lives on the opposite side of the road, so it's actually trailed across the carriageway
spellinn said:"Trailing cables, however well covered, are not something that a council can agree to on a public road or pavement"
Unless, of course, it is one of their cables doing traffic surveying
ddavenpo said:I have just got an Outlander PHEV for exactly the same reason (company car tax). Generally I like it, its good to drive and its very cheap on company car tax as you know, but unless you also get a petrol card, I would not get one. Basically if you could charge it up every night, you would get near free driving for the first 15-18 whilst you have battery (don't believe the brochure - that's the realistic range). After that it drinks petrol. On average, I get anywhere between 21 and 25 MPG on most of my driving - you would get twice that from a modern diesel. If you can never charge it up, you will only ever get that sort of mileage. I get a company petrol card (which is also cheap on tax of course), so it's not an issue for me, except the fact that you have to fill up twice as much.
ddavenpo said:I have just got an Outlander PHEV for exactly the same reason (company car tax). Generally I like it, its good to drive and its very cheap on company car tax as you know, but unless you also get a petrol card, I would not get one. Basically if you could charge it up every night, you would get near free driving for the first 15-18 whilst you have battery (don't believe the brochure - that's the realistic range). After that it drinks petrol. On average, I get anywhere between 21 and 25 MPG on most of my driving - you would get twice that from a modern diesel. If you can never charge it up, you will only ever get that sort of mileage. I get a company petrol card (which is also cheap on tax of course), so it's not an issue for me, except the fact that you have to fill up twice as much.
dgmulti said:ddavenpo said:I have just got an Outlander PHEV for exactly the same reason (company car tax). Generally I like it, its good to drive and its very cheap on company car tax as you know, but unless you also get a petrol card, I would not get one. Basically if you could charge it up every night, you would get near free driving for the first 15-18 whilst you have battery (don't believe the brochure - that's the realistic range). After that it drinks petrol. On average, I get anywhere between 21 and 25 MPG on most of my driving - you would get twice that from a modern diesel. If you can never charge it up, you will only ever get that sort of mileage. I get a company petrol card (which is also cheap on tax of course), so it's not an issue for me, except the fact that you have to fill up twice as much.
This is definitely not the case - I do a 240mile trip every week and its 95% motorway. I usually fill up before each long trip and you will see from my Signature that my average is well over 40mpg... during the week I would do trips that are 65% EV but not that high relative to the motorway trips that it would skew the mpg figure upwards...
If I hit the reset on a motorway section my instantaneous mpg is usually around 38...
You must either have a very heavy right foot or there is something amiss with the car...
Grigou said:You should all compare with an equivalent Diesel car (Honda CR-V for example), with the same light foot, same speed etc ...
If so, you would all honestly admit that the Diesel uses much less liters to drive 100 km than the Outlander PHEV.
At high speeds on motorways at least ...
I've had a CR-V Diesel and know what I'am talking about (8 litres/100 km vs 10 litres/100 km for the PHEV @130 km/h)
discorduk said:This is what I have heard, I can't drive it myself prior to purchase, I need adaptions so rely on other peoples experiences and riding shotgun on a test drive, also the smoothness of no gear changes and quietness in the cabin are appealing.jaapv said:It drives a lot nicer than the Diesel....
Official MPG for the PHEV with minimum charge is 48.7, and for the diesel auto its also 48.7 (i need auto), which are both better than my other choices ix35 (41.5) and tiguan (47.9), of course official figures are never realistic, but I am using them here as relative comparisons.
Lexus aren't available on motability at all, and taxes aren't relevant, as a disabled driver my vehicle is exempt from road tax.
So my assumptions are that given that the official mpg figures are the same, petrol is cheaper than diesel per litre, and the phev is presumably better economy on urban than the diesel, just a shame they don't publish that figure.
Marksuk said:I got mine through the scheme and Mitsubishi will not deliver a PHEV until you have a charging point fitted its that simple, we have off street parking but arrange a charge point fitting as soon as you can.
I had to email a lot of certification documents to Holt Mitsubishi in Derby (Excellent) and Motorbility (Not so excellent), I think the installer had to send emails as well. You must do this or you wont get a car. The car was sat at the dealers and would not be delivered until the charge point was certified as fitted by Motorbility and then took another "four working days" to release the car for delivery.
Hopefully this explains the situation as of a couple of months ago.
If you want to PM me then feel free, I live in Derbyshire too
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