Tyres

[greendwarf]

quoted £2674 for second set of 18" alloys without tyres :shock:

I was quoted £400 per wheel by my dealer as a special offer, so I'd press them on price. However, I was also told that when the GxH5s are pimped up they change the wheels and so have surplus standard ones available at considerably less

 

[itserve]

Just purchased 4 x Superia Eco Blue 4x4 SUV 225/55 R18 XL 103XL to replace the original TOYOs. The TOYOs have done 30,000 miles so have done pretty well, but they are vulnerable to nicks and tread damage it seems.

The SUperia Eco Blues were £54 inc VAT each delivered! They have a better wet and dry grip, and nise rating than the TOYOs. Ive never heard of them, but now I've got them ready at home to fit, they look decent enough to me and a very similar tread pattern to other SUV tyres around.

I rang my lease company before the purchase and they confirmed in an email that I can fit any tyres I like onto the leased vehicle, obviously keeping to or exceeding the original tyre specifications.

Reviews (the Superias seem popular in New Zealand and Australia) are good, suggesting long lasting wear characteristics too. At £54 a corner I am happy to give them a go! My local stealer wanted £200 per tyre to replace the originals with replacement TOYO R37s - they must think their customers were born yesterday.

 

[greendwarf]

Just purchased 4 x Superia Eco Blue 4x4 SUV 225/55 R18 XL 103XL to replace the original TOYOs. The TOYOs have done 30,000 miles so have done pretty well, but they are vulnerable to nicks and tread damage it seems.

The SUperia Eco Blues were £54 inc VAT each delivered! They have a better wet and dry grip, and nise rating than the TOYOs. Ive never heard of them, but now I've got them ready at home to fit, they look decent enough to me and a very similar tread pattern to other SUV tyres around.

I rang my lease company before the purchase and they confirmed in an email that I can fit any tyres I like onto the leased vehicle, obviously keeping to or exceeding the original tyre specifications.

Reviews (the Superias seem popular in New Zealand and Australia) are good, suggesting long lasting wear characteristics too. At £54 a corner I am happy to give them a go! My local stealer wanted £200 per tyre to replace the originals with replacement TOYO R37s - they must think their customers were born yesterday.

I hope you're right - £54 for a tyre seems very much at cheap (and nasty?) end of the market. I don't think I'd be happy paying less than £100 on a £30k car. :?

 

[jaapv]

Well, the ratings for Superia tyres on the Internet vary from "crap", "lethal in the wet" and "worn down in 10.000 km" to straight 5 stars in all aspects, so I guess the jury is still out on the quality. In general, heavy SUVs need dedicated tyres for stability.

 

[itserve]

Not the reviews I've seen. The load rating is 103XL and 850kg per tyre, much higher than the Toyos.

They seem absolutely fine on the car, look decent and the ride is good. Wet grip is C rated. Noise rating is 69dB.

 

[MarkC]

Just fitted a set of the new Avons on my 2014 Outlander, wasn't impressed that the original toyo's had only done 26000. The Avons are really quiet and good in the wet. Cheaper than the Pirelli's I was going to fit until an old boy at Lodge Tyres recommmended the Avons.

 

[Steel188]

My leasing company use National Tyres and tell them to fit Bridgestones.

When the time comes, I wouldn't worry too much about different brands back and front, but I would insist on side to side being the same as I'm more concerned with the ABS and traction control working than I am the TPMS, which has never shown any sign of life (which I put down to weekly pressure checks using the same air line)

 

[lg1726]

Just had the first service on the PHEV about 5 weeks ago and they pointed out some wear on the outside rim of both front tyres, now the tyre pressure alert is coming on and if i pump up the tyres, its back on in a couple of days and its clear that the front tyres have worn down a lot in those few weeks and are clearly losing pressure. This after only 11k miles! Given the low milage I'm not too keen to replace with the same brand, even if it is recommended by Mitsu and have been quoted #130 each to supply and fit two Goodyear Eagle LS2 - any advise, comments, recommendations appreciated!

 

[jaapv]

Happy with Conti Crosscontact UHP. Excellent road tyre, very stable at all speeds, quite good on soft roads, 25.000 miles and about 5mm left.

 

[Muddywheels]

I was considering the Eagle LS2 but as they are 97 load rating not 98 as per handbook I decided against it to avoid insurance/warranty issues :?

 

[Steel188]

Ig1726
If your tyres are worn at only 11k, there must be something out of line. Although my car is on contract with maintenance, I have a seperate package deal with a tyre specialist that has a superb machine that checks the car's geometry by laser.

The first time they checked it the toe, camber and caster angle were out at both ends, but it took them less than 10 minutes of spanner twirling to totally transform my car from a slightly twitchy, nervous feel to the steering and composure into a stable, straight running, settled machine. And I get as many checks as I need for two years. Result!

My car is now just over 8 months old, has 22,000 miles on the clock and all the tyres still have 4 - 5mm of tread all over.

The other thing I do is run the car using the high speed tyre pressure of 38psi all round, all the time. I can't tell the difference in ride quality, but the results of my combined efforts are plain to see.

If you aren't keen to fit like for like, make sure the spec of your new tyres, in terms of load and speed rating, matches or exceeds the OEM Toyos, never fit a lesser tyre.

 

[NightPHEVer]

My advice would be to fit any available 'premium' quality tyres other than Toyo. Basically Toyo appear to have a supply problem in the UK. If Mitsubishi dealers can't easily get hold of them then who can? I'd stick to Bridgestone, Continental, Yokohama etc. Can't think of any reason why you can't have a 'V' (150mph) speed rating instead of an 'H' (130mph) which widens availability of the correct size. Unless of course Mitsubishi could say a 'V' rated tyre is not identical to OEM 'H' fitment, which may invalidate the warranty should they decide that to be the case.

I tried to get some Yokohamas or Toyos for my Smart car and none were actually available anywhere, despite being advertised. Ended up with OEM Continentals. Also have Bridgestone Blizzaks for the winter which are very handy indeed on a rear wheel drive auto. I'd like to get some winter wheels/tyres for my PHEV but all options seem costly. My Smart winter tyres cost £400 for a set, including the steel wheels, from MB main dealer. Steel wheels don't look too good though, and they rust. Rather have alloys.

I certainly wouldn't mix brands on the same car. Visually offensive if nothing else. Tyres are beautiful things - I love the smell of a new tyre. We should learn to love our tyres and not see them as a grudge purchase.

 

[NightPHEVer]

Further to this potential future dilema, I've just bought a very nice used Toyo R37 225/55R18H for £50. I spotted it on ebay and it happened to be at a tyre fitters only 10 miles from where I live, so I bought it. Looks virtually new, no repairs, no sidewall damage, made in 2015 (all tyres have a date stamp), 6.5mm of tread. So in the event that I do suffer from a terminally damaged tyre (I have done in the past) at least I have a spare.

 

[Muddywheels]

I got the Conti winters fitted today and ride feels softer/seems quieter and no messages appeared yet on dash so looking good

I've now got to decide if I keep the Toyos taken off with 1900 miles use for next summer or sell them and fit some premium tyres next year - Fitter says the Toyo are underrated and he would refit them :?

 

[NightPHEVer]

I'd really like an alternative set of OEM alloys with a set of winter tyres. There are some on ebay at the moment for a £190 'buy it now' each (that's just the alloy). So even if I made an offer, not especially affordable. My original silver alloys are unmarked and perfect and I would love them to stay that way. It's the salt that worries me. I'll be out there of a cold winter's night, in the garage, with the Mr Sheen. Not at all sad in any way. I even periodically take the wheels off to clean them. Again, not at all sad. It really annoys me that the hollow hub-bit of front brake discs deposit grimy sploshes of liquid brake dust on to the inside of the alloy AFTER I've just washed them. So I then have to clean them again. Anyone who thinks I don't have to clean them again (or in fact, in the first place) is obviously mistaken. Surely part of the 'eco' credentials of a car like this are to make it last - assuming the batteries and electrics don't terminally expire way before the rest of the car.

 

[Muddywheels]

I would of preferred a 16" set for winter but Mitsubishi UK aren't interested in selling them so I'm going to be using the diamond turned year round which is worrying

I used to have 2 sets on previous LRs and swapping them every 6 months gave me opportunity to clean every inch and treat them to protect

I'm reliably informed that if I treat them with C5 ceramic coating or similar they will clean easily with a jet wash and look like new for many years

 

[itserve]

Update, the Superia EcoBlue tyres I fitted look as good as new after 2000 miles, and the grip in wet and dry is absolutely fine.

 

[jaapv]

I would of preferred a 16" set for winter but Mitsubishi UK aren't interested in selling them so I'm going to be using the diamond turned year round which is worrying

I used to have 2 sets on previous LRs and swapping them every 6 months gave me opportunity to clean every inch and treat them to protect

I'm reliably informed that if I treat them with C5 ceramic coating or similar they will clean easily with a jet wash and look like new for many years

Why would you buy them with Mitsubishi??? Are there no independent sellers in the UK??


The Mitsubishi PHEV Business Edition over here runs standard on 16" alloys, plenty of owners of other models bought 16" steel wheels for their winter tyres too.

 

[Muddywheels]

Most UK insurers will accept genuine oem wheels and winter tyres without charging additional fees and manufacturers can't deny warranty claims if you fit genuine accessories hence why I don't fit non oem

If I fit non oem my insurer will want at least £25-30 every 6 months to amend my insurance for summer and winter tyres and if like LR then Mitsubishi may say any fault suspension, steering etc related is caused by non oem wheels - basically easier to fit genuine but not at UK prices new

I used to buy smaller used wheels for LR but can't find any for phev in UK and Mitsubishi said I can't fit smaller despite selling them in Europe

 

[jaapv]

Weird - selling a model with 16" wheels in one place and being silly about it 100 miles further on... :roll:
Brexit fallout? :twisted: