Chris Lindesay
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I do not yet own an Outlander PHEV but am looking at doing so having identified a UK 5HS registered on 29/3/2017 with about 45k miles on the odometer.
All the emotional and "green" signals are good but the rational aspects say - it depends on the battery and do I really want to have a black one?
This car is still in the £0 Road tax category by a few days and the Battery warranty does not run out until 28/3/2025 so I have asked for the battery to be checked and I await a report.
It seems some can determine the build model from the fact that there is an electric handbrake and hold rather than the older physical lever. My guess is that this is a 40Ah unit so to pass warranty it seem there must be a minimum of 28 Ah max reported capacity.
I am trying to figure out what 28Ah might translate to in terms of "available EV miles" on what I see is called the "guessometer". I know it depends on driving style etc but my brother has a 2015 phev outlander and he says he is getting 11 miles of RV and about 32MPG on the ICE
Also as the Dealer Battery condition check is taking a few days can I assume that they are conducting a full degradation warranty process described (as below) on the FB group.
The car was registered in 2017 and I am assuming that equates to MY2017 on this forum and for warranty purposes - but if MY is actually "manufacturing year" then I guess registered in March 2017 could make this a MY2016 which would mean a warranty based on a 38 Ah battery instead of a 40 Ah - I assume this was a "policy" change as opposed to technology which came with the MY2019 46 Ah battery.
While the car is not cheap It seems to be in great condition but battery condition seems a disproportionate influence on value at this stage in the vehicles lifecycle.
All the emotional and "green" signals are good but the rational aspects say - it depends on the battery and do I really want to have a black one?
This car is still in the £0 Road tax category by a few days and the Battery warranty does not run out until 28/3/2025 so I have asked for the battery to be checked and I await a report.
It seems some can determine the build model from the fact that there is an electric handbrake and hold rather than the older physical lever. My guess is that this is a 40Ah unit so to pass warranty it seem there must be a minimum of 28 Ah max reported capacity.
I am trying to figure out what 28Ah might translate to in terms of "available EV miles" on what I see is called the "guessometer". I know it depends on driving style etc but my brother has a 2015 phev outlander and he says he is getting 11 miles of RV and about 32MPG on the ICE
Also as the Dealer Battery condition check is taking a few days can I assume that they are conducting a full degradation warranty process described (as below) on the FB group.
The car was registered in 2017 and I am assuming that equates to MY2017 on this forum and for warranty purposes - but if MY is actually "manufacturing year" then I guess registered in March 2017 could make this a MY2016 which would mean a warranty based on a 38 Ah battery instead of a 40 Ah - I assume this was a "policy" change as opposed to technology which came with the MY2019 46 Ah battery.
While the car is not cheap It seems to be in great condition but battery condition seems a disproportionate influence on value at this stage in the vehicles lifecycle.
| Degradation warranty process: |
| 1. Dealer reads estimated health and other "freeze frame" info from BMU. |
| 2. Dealer runs DBCAM, which typically adds a few percentage points to the pessimistic estimate. As with all warranty diagnostics, this work is chargable, but refunded if claim successful. |
| 3. Dealer repeats step #1 and sends all the data to the factory for "judgement" — they want to see that the estimate remains under the threshold listed above, plus that the BMU hasn't been messed about with (notably that the stored age and odo values agree with reality). |
| 4. If successful, battery will either be repaired or replaced. This needs to be done at one of the 10-ish "EV battery repair" centres, so it might be as well to take it to your local one in the first instance. |
