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Overheating Transmission symbol of outlander roadest 2008 during hard driving what would be the problem? And its solution?

 

[AndyInOz]

2008 Outlander PHEV?

Tell 'em they're dreaming.

Wrong forum mate.

 

[Jedinsky]

Overheating Transmission symbol of outlander roadest 2008 during hard driving what would be the problem? And its solution?

2008 model uses a CVT (continuously variable transmission), early CVTs are notoriously unreliable and have more issues than a newspaper.

if you've already changed the transmission fluid and are still having the same problem it could be a malfunctioning sensor, but honestly a CVT lasting 16 years is a pretty good run, you've just gotta decide whether you want to get a mechanic to diagnose and fix the underlying issue (which could be you need a new sensor, or a new CVT) or wait until it undergoes "rapid unplanned self-disassembly".

if you haven't already changed the transmission fluid then you really should find a good mechanic.

 

[IllustratedRat]

2008 model uses a CVT (continuously variable transmission), early CVTs are notoriously unreliable and have more issues than a newspaper.

if you've already changed the transmission fluid and are still having the same problem it could be a malfunctioning sensor, but honestly a CVT lasting 16 years is a pretty good run, you've just gotta decide whether you want to get a mechanic to diagnose and fix the underlying issue (which could be you need a new sensor, or a new CVT) or wait until it undergoes "rapid unplanned self-disassembly".

if you haven't already changed the transmission fluid then you really should find a good mechanic.

There is no 2008 model PHEV. The first year the PHEV model was released was 2013 in Japan only.

The PHEV does not have a transmission - there is a dual electric-switched torque vector system (ETV) that's labelled with Mitsubishi's trademark (S-AWC), which is driven by two electric motors. The ICE only engages with the front S-AWC and the AC generator via a wet-clutch-driven mechanism called a Multi-Mode Dedicated Hybrid Transmission (MMDHT) which prevents stress on the drivetrain and provides the most efficient transfer of rotational torque to the rest of the car. There is NO CVT in this vehicle, although the non-PHEV version DOES have a CVT.

There are two fixed gear ratios in the PHEV - forward and reverse - between the electric motors and the axles. No transmission is necessary because electric motors have essentially a flat torque-curve (torque vs. angular velocity).

This is the third-party manufacturer who makes the part:

https://www.gknautomotive.com/en/sy...ic/multi-mode-dedicated-hybrid-transmission2/

 

[drwho]

There is no 2008 model PHEV. The first year the PHEV model was released was 2013 in Japan only.

The PHEV does not have a transmission - there is a dual electric-switched torque vector system (ETV) that's labelled with Mitsubishi's trademark (S-AWC), which is driven by two electric motors. The ICE only engages with the front S-AWC and the AC generator via a wet-clutch-driven mechanism called a Multi-Mode Dedicated Hybrid Transmission (MMDHT) which prevents stress on the drivetrain and provides the most efficient transfer of rotational torque to the rest of the car. There is NO CVT in this vehicle, although the non-PHEV version DOES have a CVT.

There are two fixed gear ratios in the PHEV - forward and reverse - between the electric motors and the axles. No transmission is necessary because electric motors have essentially a flat torque-curve (torque vs. angular velocity).

This is the third-party manufacturer who makes the part:

https://www.gknautomotive.com/en/sy...ic/multi-mode-dedicated-hybrid-transmission2/

Hey, thanks for the real info regarding the drive train on the PHEV Outlanders. We have a 2024 GT Premium and I love the way it drives with what I thot was a CVT. It's just so smooth and easy to drive and maneuver.
The only problem with knowing this now is that I'll have to tell my wife that I was wrong (again) and that the ultra-smooth drive train isn't because of a good CVT
design or sourcing. Mais, c'est la vie ...

 

[Jedinsky]

There is no 2008 model PHEV. The first year the PHEV model was released was 2013 in Japan only.

The PHEV does not have a transmission - there is a dual electric-switched torque vector system (ETV) that's labelled with Mitsubishi's trademark (S-AWC), which is driven by two electric motors. The ICE only engages with the front S-AWC and the AC generator via a wet-clutch-driven mechanism called a Multi-Mode Dedicated Hybrid Transmission (MMDHT) which prevents stress on the drivetrain and provides the most efficient transfer of rotational torque to the rest of the car. There is NO CVT in this vehicle, although the non-PHEV version DOES have a CVT.

There are two fixed gear ratios in the PHEV - forward and reverse - between the electric motors and the axles. No transmission is necessary because electric motors have essentially a flat torque-curve (torque vs. angular velocity).

This is the third-party manufacturer who makes the part:

https://www.gknautomotive.com/en/sy...ic/multi-mode-dedicated-hybrid-transmission2/

i was aware there was no 2008 outlander phev, but the information about the ETV and MMDHT was worth waiting for, so much of the information on google is just marketing garbage with no real substance.

 

[IllustratedRat]

Hey, thanks for the real info regarding the drive train on the PHEV Outlanders. We have a 2024 GT Premium and I love the way it drives with what I thot was a CVT. It's just so smooth and easy to drive and maneuver.
The only problem with knowing this now is that I'll have to tell my wife that I was wrong (again) and that the ultra-smooth drive train isn't because of a good CVT
design or sourcing. Mais, c'est la vie ...

Ah, no worries mate. If your wife is anything like mine, she'll want to know the real answer and won't care whether your first take was right or wrong.

G*d knows I've made bad estimates a few times. My life-partner forgives me for that.

 

[IllustratedRat]

i was aware there was no 2008 outlander phev, but the information about the ETV and MMDHT was worth waiting for, so much of the information on google is just marketing garbage with no real substance.

Yes, very true. It's difficult to get to the facts through the noise.

Add to that the general fog and hype surrounding EV-adjacent technology and you've got not... not much.

Our 2021 Outie PHEV GT was only purchased after they brought the 3rd generation North American version up to the same specs as the World version. I spent a lot of time researching this vehicle because it is my wife's car and I didn't want her to get stuck with a piece of sh*t, if you'll pardon the expression. At the time there was no other 2-motor, AWD PHEV available in the US.