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Lyra252 said:
Hi

I have towed 1 1500kg dive boat without any problems, even up the steep slip.

I would recommend towing with a full (ish) battery and using save not charge.
In another post of you, I read you experienced high revs a lot, when towing your boat. Could this be related to the fact that you use Save, not Charge and fail to maintain your SOC? Because as long as you manage to maintain decent SOC, you should not encounter these high revs. Unless you floor it ....
 
I've just returned from taking my 1500Kg Swift caravan in for service. Only a 24 mile or so round trip, so not a prolonged test, but enough to get a feel for what's happening under the bonnet, etc. Everything was done under "normal" mode.

OK - compared to a traditionally geared manual or auto, the ICE engine revs are the first difference of significant note. Initially, the car tries to do everything through the electric motors. Starting from home the ICE engine started, to provide cabin heat as usual, but all low speed (up to 30-40mph on lightish throttle) driving was pretty much as normal. Harder acceleration to reach a higher speed plus a couple of moderately steep hills on the outward journey generated significantly high engine revs that, according to the MFD, was to boost battery power to the electric motors. Only on the return trip with battery reserves depleted did I notice engine power being directed to the wheels.

From my very limited knowledge, the nature of CV transmissions is that the engine is allowed to rev to the maximum required for power demanded and those revs can be sustained at a constant level even though road speed is increasing. I could hear this both when engine power was directing energy to the batteries, to supplement what the traction motors were demanding, and when power was going to the driven wheels. This is quite a different experience to the gently rising engine revs as a car accelerates with a traditional gearbox. When I was going up hill and had a mid-throttle position the engine, to me, was revving a lot with no more to give. I continued to push down harder on the accelerator and the car picked up speed more rapidly, but the engine note remained pretty constant.

Hope that helps to illustrate the "revving engine" references made earlier in this thread. I don't have a longer trip planned until Easter when I'm off to Barmouth area (about 170 miles each way), so we'll see how that stacks up then.
 
Do bear in mind that the engine cannot be coupled direct to the wheels at speeds much below 50mph - hence most towing is going to be done in serial hybrid (electric) mode.
 
maby said:
Do bear in mind that the engine cannot be coupled direct to the wheels at speeds much below 50mph - hence most towing is going to be done in serial hybrid (electric) mode.
Also bear in mind that it has no CV gearbox-just a clutch that connects the ICE directly.
 
jaapv said:
maby said:
Do bear in mind that the engine cannot be coupled direct to the wheels at speeds much below 50mph - hence most towing is going to be done in serial hybrid (electric) mode.
Also bear in mind that it has no CV gearbox-just a clutch that connects the ICE directly.
Ah! OK & thanks for that clarification.
 
maby said:
Do bear in mind that the engine cannot be coupled direct to the wheels at speeds much below 50mph - hence most towing is going to be done in serial hybrid (electric) mode.
The barrier is at 40 mph, so I would not agree that most driving would be in serial mode. Also, my personal experience with a 1500 kg caravan (about 3000 km so far) tells me that most steady driving can / will be done in parallel mode.
 
Just drop in my towing experience - quite different requirements;

I tow a small boat, never weighted it, but including trailer under 700 kilo. BUT at a boat ramp (often dirty, muddy, ...) and at an angle up to 15%, many cars suffer. Because there is less weight on the front wheels and most cars have front traction.

The trailering with the PHEV is fun! just hook on the boat on the slippery slope, get in (whipe your feet...) and ssssssssss it zoomes up. no problemo. done ramps that are booked "impossible" for other boat owners, for me with the outlander it's a joke. so much torque ! :D :D
 
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