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Drea

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Hi all, I am new here, so, there’s a whole bunch of Level 2 chargers out there, and the big difference seems to be amps. The manual says to ask the dealer for help, but mine basically just shrugged and said, “Good luck!”, super helpful, right? Any advice for a 2023 model?
 
Drea said:
Hi all, I am new here, so, there’s a whole bunch of Level 2 chargers out there, and the big difference seems to be amps. The manual says to ask the dealer for help, but mine basically just shrugged and said, “Good luck!”, super helpful, right? Any advice for a 2023 model?
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Do you just want the cable or a whole EV Level Two Charger box with built in cable? My car came with a cable but it only charged on a household current 120 volt line. Too slow! If you want to charge at the faster speed of level two you need to be plugging into a 240 volt line. I had one installed in my garage and it was $1500 for installation and I bought the Emporia wall mounted unit from Amazon for $399, so i spent a total of $1900 to get level two charging. It charges zero to 100% in about 6 hours. I have a 2023 Outlander PHEV.
In America and Canada, stay away from the Juice Box products which are no longer supported by their manufacturer.
 
Drea said:
Hi all, I am new here, so, there’s a whole bunch of Level 2 chargers out there, and the big difference seems to be amps. The manual says to ask the dealer for help, but mine basically just shrugged and said, “Good luck!”, super helpful, right? Any advice for a 2023 model?
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Any Level 2 charger with the J1772 Connector to the car (some have the Tesla connector). You car won't draw more than 16 amps but in my case I had a 32 amp installed for use by my sons who visit with Tesla's and possible a future EV for me. It's set to 32 amps but the car only takes what the On Board Charger allows....16 amps in the case of the Outlander.

You can buy a plug in type or hard-wired. Either will require a 220volt outlet be near where you park. You may need an electrician to run that from your breaker panel. I had a hard wired installed because the likelihood of taking it with me and finding a 220 volt outlet somewhere else is extremely low and hardwired is a bit more difficult to steal if it's installed outside. I carry the Granny charger in the car for when I'm elsewhere.

Check with your utility before proceeding, I know that here in Canada there are many rebate offers from utilities and you want to enure, if that option is available to you. that you pick a charger from their eligible list and follow their process. I had the ChargePoint Homeflex CPH50 installed and had 50% of my costs rebated. I am very happy with the charger and it's WIFI capability. Good Luck.
 
Drea said:
Hi all, I am new here, so, there’s a whole bunch of Level 2 chargers out there, and the big difference seems to be amps. The manual says to ask the dealer for help, but mine basically just shrugged and said, “Good luck!”, super helpful, right? Any advice for a 2023 model?
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The Outlander charges at half the speed of my wife’s Kona so 16 amps is probably fine. But if you might go all electric someday a faster level 2 may make more sense.
 
I see from your profile that you are in Colorado.

If this is still the case, whatever you do - don't buy a charger from Enel X. There may be some unscrupulous people still trying to sell you a JuiceBox charger.

Enel X has ceased operating in North America and they will soon be shutting down their infrastructure so the app (which is necessary to make the chargers work with your car and have all the metrics) will also cease to function.

We just found this out last month. It's only been two years since we bought two of their chargers (one for the Outie and one spare for my future EV).

What a rip-off. I'm still pissed at them for leaving us high-and-dry.
 
Drea said:
Hi all, I am new here, so, there’s a whole bunch of Level 2 chargers out there, and the big difference seems to be amps. The manual says to ask the dealer for help, but mine basically just shrugged and said, “Good luck!”, super helpful, right? Any advice for a 2023 model?
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I got a 16 am charger from Amazon for a few hundred bucks. Works great. The car won't take any more than 16 amps so thats all you need
 
I bought 32amp level 2 charger, but as I see it is charging no more then 14.5amp. Therefore no need to buy more then 16amp, but level 2 is twice faster then stock level one charger1000022493.jpg
 
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Bought mine 4 years ago when I got my car. Lord knows what I paid but it is 220 V and had to have my garage plug rewired costing me about $250 Cnd. Take 3.5 to 3.75 to fully charge . Whether I am down to half or less I recharge. Wouldn't be without it.
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tb352 said:
Do you just want the cable or a whole EV Level Two Charger box with built in cable? My car came with a cable but it only charged on a household current 120 volt line. Too slow! If you want to charge at the faster speed of level two you need to be plugging into a 240 volt line. I had one installed in my garage and it was $1500 for installation and I bought the Emporia wall mounted unit from Amazon for $399, so i spent a total of $1900 to get level two charging. It charges zero to 100% in about 6 hours. I have a 2023 Outlander PHEV.
In America and Canada, stay away from the Juice Box products which are no longer supported by their manufacturer.
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Thanks for the advice! I’m looking for a full Level 2 charger with a cable, so I’ll check out the Emporia. Did you go with a professional installer for the 240V line, and has the 6-hour charge time been pretty consistent?
 
Polyian said:
Any Level 2 charger with the J1772 Connector to the car (some have the Tesla connector). You car won't draw more than 16 amps but in my case I had a 32 amp installed for use by my sons who visit with Tesla's and possible a future EV for me. It's set to 32 amps but the car only takes what the On Board Charger allows....16 amps in the case of the Outlander.

You can buy a plug in type or hard-wired. Either will require a 220volt outlet be near where you park. You may need an electrician to run that from your breaker panel. I had a hard wired installed because the likelihood of taking it with me and finding a 220 volt outlet somewhere else is extremely low and hardwired is a bit more difficult to steal if it's installed outside. I carry the Granny charger in the car for when I'm elsewhere.

Check with your utility before proceeding, I know that here in Canada there are many rebate offers from utilities and you want to enure, if that option is available to you. that you pick a charger from their eligible list and follow their process. I had the ChargePoint Homeflex CPH50 installed and had 50% of my costs rebated. I am very happy with the charger and it's WIFI capability. Good Luck.
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Good point on the amp limit and the benefits of hard-wired installation for security. I’ll check with my utility about potential rebates and eligible chargers. Appreciate the heads-up.
 
IllustratedRat said:
I see from your profile that you are in Colorado.

If this is still the case, whatever you do - don't buy a charger from Enel X. There may be some unscrupulous people still trying to sell you a JuiceBox charger.

Enel X has ceased operating in North America and they will soon be shutting down their infrastructure so the app (which is necessary to make the chargers work with your car and have all the metrics) will also cease to function.

We just found this out last month. It's only been two years since we bought two of their chargers (one for the Outie and one spare for my future EV).

What a rip-off. I'm still pissed at them for leaving us high-and-dry.
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Thanks for the heads-up! I’m definitely steering clear of Enel X and the JuiceBox now. That shutdown sounds like a huge headache, I’d be upset, too! I’ll focus on options with reliable support instead.
 
I use this one, not expensive level 2 and u can control it through free app you install on cell phone.
AIMILER Level 2 Electric Vehicle (EV) Charger(32Amp, 220V-240V, NEMA 14-50 Plug), 25ft Cable ETL FCC Listed Portable Indoor/Outdoor EVSE SAE J1772 EV Car Charging Station w/Delay Timer, WiFi Enabled https://a.co/d/hxVRBnS
 
Drea said:
Thanks for the advice! I’m looking for a full Level 2 charger with a cable, so I’ll check out the Emporia. Did you go with a professional installer for the 240V line, and has the 6-hour charge time been pretty consistent?
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Yes I used an electrician to install the 240 volt line. He charged about $1600 and the Emporia was $399 at Amazon. It was a lot of effort because it was a pretty long run from my electrical box in the basement out to my garage. Yes the 6 hours charge time has been very consistent. I use the Mitsubishi app to schedule charging between midnight and 6 am and it has completely charged every time. I also signed up for the hourly rate with my electric company to get the lowest rates overnight. They also offered an EV charger installation rebate that I took advantage of to have them pay for the entire cost of the installation and charger.
There is a YouTube channel called State of Charge that does a great job of rating all he chargers and educating you about everything involving EV chargers and charging. Stay away from Juice Box chargers as they recently stopped supporting them in North America.
 
$120 L2/120 or 240v charger with LCD display. Plugs into either, tells me real charge stats.
< $20 to adapt existing 240v outlet

EV101 Portable EV Charger Level 1+2, 8/10/13/16 Amp Adjustable Electric Car Charger, 110V-240V 3.5KW 20 ft Plug-in Hybrid EV Charger https://a.co/d/4aW0ptK

Car won't take more than 16A anyway, so 6hr for 120v or 3.5hrs for 240v... my 2019's battery only accepts 6KAh.
 

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