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    Drive battery degradation and replacement.

    No Trex, I did try and point out that it was a bit over the top to the service manager, as it really is not much more than an oil change and a bit of “look at stuff”. His reply was that MITSUBISHI allow up to 3.5 hours for that service. I also pointed out that I was keen to have my car serviced...
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    Drive battery degradation and replacement.

    I must have missed the part where they actually say they will replace a battery under warranty..... "Expecting" and "Warranty" are not quite the same thing. In any case, if I remember rightly, the original ad or brochure also said a typical use would be mum taking the kids to school and picking...
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    Drive battery degradation and replacement.

    That minimal reduction in range is my experience too. My battery reads just under 85% and last week I had to drive to the airport, something I only do a few times a year. It is 33km from my place and I usually arrive there with 8-10km left on the guessmeter. This last time however, it showed...
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    Steering lock

    True... people have enough trouble getting them going even with the right key :D
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    Increasing performance from ICE?

    That is not correct. Parallel mode can happen at speeds over 65 km/h, although sometimes the car stays in serial mode at much higher speeds and I haven't quite worked out why.
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    Increasing performance from ICE?

    Not sure why you would want to do that. When the car is in parallel hybrid mode it has heaps of torque between 80 and 100km/h. The electric motors will add over 250Nm to that available from the petrol engine when required, provided the battery has a reasonable charge (>30%) in it.
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    Drive battery degradation . Houston, do we have a problem?

    Not sure if it can be called a "repair", I think "adjustment" maybe the correct term.. anyway, you're walking a fine line and at the end of the day you will probably have to rely on their goodwill. We had a few noisy chaps here in Australia about this issue but they've gone a bit quiet.... Maybe...
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    Drive battery degradation . Houston, do we have a problem?

    It depends what you define as a top buffer. If you assume that the LEV40 cells are in fact a nominal 40Ah capacity cell, but we know that most cars report 38Ah when new, I guess there is one. The difference between charging to 4.2V and 4.1V may well be 2Ah, but we know the charging voltage is...
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    Battery pack replacement

    There is no doubt that the battery will degrade significantly over the life of the vehicle, that's just the way it is at this stage of development. The real question is, when will the car become unusable ? Assuming no individual cell failure (which will cause the BMU to stop the car from...
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    Wipe previous owners driving history

    In the MMCS trip meter where it shows the history, change from auto to manual and then reset. However, this will only reset the historic data and will not change the estimated driving range. You will find that this will vary day by day as it is based on the driving style of the last few miles...
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    Considering a PHEV as next car

    If saving a few bucks on fuel is your main consideration... forget it. Although there are a few scenarios where you rarely have to buy any fuel. As a transition vehicle between full EV and a normal car, it is perfect. There is nothing quite like it at that price (for now). If most of your use...
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    Battery Degradation Issues: I bet you wil suffer from them

    The way I read the original statement when the car was first announced here does not PROMISE ANYTHING. It simply said that Mitsubishi EXPECT that the battery retains 80% capacity for the life of the vehicle and that the battery is not a normal service item and not scheduled to be replaced. It...
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    Battery Degradation Issues: I bet you wil suffer from them

    Well, I would say it will probably take a fair while to get to 50%, but one of the facts I haven't considered with this car and which is becoming obvious, is that the battery actually works much harder than in a full EV in normal use. That is, commuting beyond the battery range every day will...
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    Battery Degradation Issues: I bet you wil suffer from them

    The problem with Apps like watchdog is that they create undue stress to owners. I wonder how many (I know there are a few) would really have noticed any battery degradation in day to day use if it hadn't been for that app.... My battery, according to the watchdog, sits at around 85% and I...
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    I've bin finking

    Now you see where the Plug-in Hybrids fit in..... :D
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    Battery Cooling Ever Come On During Level 2 Charging?

    I think you'll find that the charging efficiency of the battery is rather better than the figures you quote. In fact, it can be as high as 95% for Li-Ion (not including losses in the charger). At the maximum charge rate of Level2 (about C/.25), very little heat would be generated. I have never...
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    Battery Cooling Ever Come On During Level 2 Charging?

    That would be cooling the charger, the coolant circulates through that. The battery is cooled by an evaporator from the aircon compressor.. that is unlikely to be required in level 2 charging.
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    Drive battery degradation . Houston, do we have a problem?

    Well, in day to day driving there is probably not all that much difference in how the different levels of regeneration affect the battery, you will get the odd burst of high charge current in the high setting, but that should not be a problem. Where it gets more interesting is in the mountains...
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    Drive battery degradation . Houston, do we have a problem?

    This might be of interest to people worried about driving often with B5 regen set: www.mdpi.com/2032-6653/7/1/41/pdf
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    Prospective Owner - Looking for Answers...

    Not sure what makes you think battery management is poor....It works fine, maybe a little inaccurate in day to day estimation, but I think when it shows a battery has lost capacity, it is true. Re-calibration may give people a warm feeling for a little while, but the fact is that batteries do...
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