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Keep an eye out for any activity on the class action suits.

It's unfortunate that so many Mitsu customers have had to go to such lengths to deal with a problem that Mitsu knew was there when they sold these vehicles in an unfit for purpose state. As noted elsewhere, be careful what you do to deal with the issue because you may allow the company the...

Watch out that Mitsu doesn't take the opportunity to use any after market intalled heater as a means to dodge their warranty responsibilities. The slimy (I use that word advisedly) way they've approached the cold start issue after advertising a battery heater as standard equipment when it wasn't...

Have you seen your dog lately? ;-)

and pluging it in adds only a miniscule amount of heat to the battery which stops charging at full charge then you're fully at the mercy of the elements :-(

Right-if you want to pre-warm the vehicle below -16C you have to physically start the engine (keeping in mind that the vehicle is set to lock out altogether at ~ -25C (battery temp-and the '23/'24 outlander PHEV is designed without a battery heater).

I had issues with my '23 and the app (less than 25% success rate) so I called Mitsu Customer "Service". They ran a check on my vehicle and I was told it was the fault of "the poor cell service in [my] location,"(1-2 bars LTE) and there was nothing they could do for me. The remote app also...

No update but the files are still active in Canada and the US. An important point to keep alive in the discussion of the deletion of the battery heater in the '23 model is that Mitsu continued to include information in its promotional material and technical specs to the effect that the...

Hi Jim: The critical point for the machine's pre=programmed lockout -s ~-25C (~-12/13 F?). As noted elsewhere, it is the battery temperature not just the air temperature that is the trigger (although it's the air temperature that takes the battery there obviously). While, if your vehicle is in...

Your ideas seem logical. Unfortunately: 1) the cabin heat, without the ICE engaged (the ICE doesn't start on remote) relies on a heat exchanger...which does not generate heat below~ -15C - competition with battery charging is not the issue 2) see 1 above 3) there is no battery heater in the '23...

Good to raise the concern. The commentary in this forum and elsewhere (mine included) on the "software enhancement" has been generally unfavourable. What the software tweek supposedly does is only to slow the cooling rate of the battery - it does not add heat and relies on the battery being warm...

Good choice...

I agree that you "should" have no problems but the reality is different from experience. With the unit plugged in and the ambient temperature in -20 to -30C range I have had the vehicle refuse to start. Once the traction battery is fully charged, there is no current flow, and with no battery...

Well, I had to get rid of my '23 bacause of the cold no-start problem but this has occurred to me last winter. A couple things discouraged me from going with it: • the remote start/run cycle was time limited as I recall (10 minutes?) and the climate system, aside from the climate system not...

once the battery (not the air temperature) is cold enough the system will lock out to "protect the battery." Plugging in makes no difference once the battery is either fully charged or too cold to take a charge (-25 according to a conversation with Mitsu customer"service"). The recent software...

0.1 - it does not have a "battery heater for operation in cold weather" ('23/24 models) as stated in the 2023 specs - it was deleted after 2022 but is on the spec sheet for 2023

More than that, -25C is commonplace in locations where Mitsu dealears are located and sell these vehicles.

The "Reminder" to owners simply says that the update *may* slow the cooling - there's nothing to suggest that they've done anything except a little bit of CYA so they can blow smoke about having taken steps to address the problem.

Maybe you just dodged a bullet Jim - -12F ~ -24C...the magic number is -25C and depending on the battery temperature when you parked the vehicle and how long is sat at the coldest temperature you just got by. At-24C when I went to park the vehicle at the grocery store after a short 4 mile trip...