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    Engine Oil Fuel Dilution Problem Is Back

    I think I know why there's such an OCI difference between Europe and other places... it's called Mitsubishi Service Plan, or MSP. This doesn't exist in USA. An example can be found here: https://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.uk/owners/service-plan (According to Mitsubishi UK, 90% of owners decide to...
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    Engine Oil Fuel Dilution Problem Is Back

    Yet the most common car questions are "how often should I change my engine oil?" and "is fully synthetic worth it?" These answers are unique for each vehicle and driving condition, and in the long term, the costs can add up depending on frequency and type. And in this particular forum, due to...
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    Engine Oil Fuel Dilution Problem Is Back

    I spent 30 seconds on Google and found this: https://www.lubemonitrix.ie/product-category/auto-mobile Sorry I know Ireland is not part of UK, but I'm sure if you searched, there's got to be more around.
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    2019 Outlander PHEV reviews and what we know

    Verified that USA MY2020 will *not* be getting the engine/battery upgrade, they will wait for the all-new model MY2021, which I hope they will not delay next year. They need an all-new, battery-upgraded model to compete against the new Ford Kuga/Escape plug-in, which will have a 14.4 kWh...
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    2019 Outlander PHEV reviews and what we know

    I know what you mean. You should see the reactions I got when people got in my 2011 Ford Fiesta. They couldn't believe it didn't have grab handles (on the ceiling) and it had roll-up windows, something they've never seen before. I told them "I got it for $13k", where else in the world can one...
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    2019 are in the US? Am I dreaming or is it true?!

    MY2020's are starting to come into dealers as we speak, and unfortunately no 2.4L (or larger battery). Looks like we need to wait until the all-new 2021's to get any power train upgrade.
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    Brake discs

    I was afraid you'd say that. I'm seeing some killer deals on MY2019, deciding whether to pull the trigger or wait for MY2020... (Or just wait for the ID4) Update: just talked with a Mitsubishi dealer who got a fresh batch of 2020s in stock... 2.0L. Noooooooooooo!
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    Brake discs

    On that note, any insights Tai on when MY2020 will be coming to America?
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    Brake discs

    I guess one has to factor in high speed cruising efficiency when deciding on an Outlander (when I think about it, is there any other PHEV with fixed ratio transmission besides the Outlander and Honda Clarity? Out of curiosity, does anyone know the Clarity's ICE rpm at 90 mph?) The Prius...
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    Warrenty if battery is under 70%

    It started with Kei models, then they admitted exaggerated fuel efficiency for all models, including the Outlander: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mitsubishimotors-scandal/mitsubishi-says-overstated-mileage-for-more-vehicle-models-idUSKCN1150PL (although the articles focus on the Japan...
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    2020 Outlander PHEV and what we know (gen 3 swan song)

    It's that time again where new models are rolling out, and like last year, the UK market is the first to receive the new Outlander PHEV models, MY2020. The changes are not as drastic as between MY2018 and MY2019, and this is the final year for gen 3 as the Nissan Rogue-based Outlander debuts for...
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    Warrenty if battery is under 70%

    I'm saying it's possible your soh is higher than the max charge level (or maybe not), the only soh measurement I would trust will be from the dealer who performs cell smoothing/dbcam procedure/and other things(?) to get it. In regards to range, I don't know much about MY2013/14, if it has the...
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    Transmission service for PHEV??

    According to this link from the US government website, it does recommend receipts of service (point 4) to maintain warranty, so diy maintenance might complicate this: https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0138-auto-warranties-routine-maintenance
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    Warrenty if battery is under 70%

    I'm not too bothered with what Mitsubishi is doing, basically lowering the high charge point even though the actual soh could be higher. That means they are aggressively protecting the battery, which long-term is better, although I understand the frustration if outright range is a priority.
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    Transmission service for PHEV??

    If anyone can access the tranny fluid, at around 50,000-60,000 miles, I would love to see a lab analysis report (eg. https://www.blackstone-labs.com) if you can share it. Most manufacturers recommend that mileage for a tranny fluid change, I'm very curious how the Outlander PHEV tranny fluid is...
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    Warrenty if battery is under 70%

    Before Mitsubishi decides to replace the battery, they will perform the dbcam procedure, which anecdotally boosts soh levels for most users (assuming the true soh is higher than the bmu-lowered soh). While the bmu will steadily drop the charge level over time, at least you'll get a higher soh...
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    Transmission service for PHEV??

    I agree this fluid needs to be changed, regardless if it's not mentioned in the manual. How often to change this will depend on one's view on costs and perceived benefits, and only a lab analysis can tell for sure if it's time to change. I agree with sticking to OEM fluids. Did you see my...
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    Transmission service for PHEV??

    I doubt it is non-lubricated, since in Parallel mode the rotational speed would generate too much heat. It's either engine oil or a sealed "lifetime" tranny oil.
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    Transmission service for PHEV??

    When I look at the cut-out illustration of the GKN unit shown here: https://www.hybridcars.com/mitsubishi-outlander-phevs-etransmission-exposed There seems to be several cogs that need lubrication. Cogs = metal shearings/heat = need to eventually change fluid. Why is Mitsubishi saying this...
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    Nerfed MY2019 finally showing up in USA

    On 02/28/2019, Mitsubishi USA's website was updated with MY2019 (not sure if this means MY2020 with the full powertrain updates will be arriving next February too), and price has increased at both the base (SEL) and higher trim levels (GT) by $1,200...
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